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Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:56 pm
by mike
The Palenville Swing Bridge is around 100 years old. It has been an important part of Palenville. It links the town on both sides of the creek. The owner of the bridge is Pine Grove Hotel ( Image ). The owner no longer can afford to carry the liability. While the owner would be covered by the Recreational Use Act, there is still a risk. He has asked the town to take over the bridge. The town as not responded if they would do this. So far, it doesn't look goodl

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There have been suggestions that they might be able to get a conservation easement from the State.

Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:21 pm
by mtnclimber
I've heard about the bridge, but never seen it. Might be a good way to Poet's Ledge. I guess it depends upon parking.

Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:18 am
by rkugel
Mike,

Do you need special permission from the Pine Grove Hotel to look at the bridge or can you just walk in? I'd love to see it some time.

Rich

Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:43 pm
by mike
The best way to approach it is from the mountain side. The one side ends at the road. But yes, you can walk across it now w/o permission.

Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:26 pm
by bikenhike
Cool! I'm going to have to check it out.

Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:09 am
by rkugel
I'd like to pass along the same warning that I shared with Mike:

I went to see the swing bridge on Saturday morning 09/18/2010. The south approach is not practical since there is no place to park (No Parking signs are posted every few feet along the entire length of Mill Road) and a police car was prowling the neighborhood.

I then drove to the north side (23A) and pulled into the Pine Grove Hotel. I was immediately "greeted" with a VERY irate individual who demanded to know who I was, why I was there, who I worked for (!), and on and on. I explained to him as calmly and courteously as I could that I simply wanted to take pictures of the swing bridge. I also offered to IMMEDIATELY leave with a full apology. Apparently, my polite demeanor softened him a bit and he shared with me the fact that he just bought the property and was already facing civil litigation due to someone falling on the premises and suing him. His concern was that I, in some way, represented the plaintiff and wanted to get pictures for evidence.

In all fairness, he did allow me to park and take some photos (although he ordered me to ONLY take photos of the bridge and NOT the HOTEL or any of the grounds) and I graciously expressed my appreciation and thanks. I asked for his name (so that I could send him send photos as a courtesy) but he only gave me his first name ("Paul") and then irately demanded to know why I wanted his last name. It was obvious I was not welcome. I took my photos, thanked him one last time, and quickly left.

My advice to everyone is to NOT enter his property at all costs! While I certainly sympathize (and empathize) with his anger towards the person who is suing him, that does not justify the rudeness and disrespect with which he spoke to me. Mind you, this guy is opening a business in which he will have to deal with the public on a daily basis - all kinds of people! If he treats his guests the way he treated me, he will be out of business in three days.

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Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:36 am
by mike
Great pictures! Looks like the one side needs to have a new concrete containment built around the footing.

Sorry to hear that the owner was so upset.

I have heard from quite a few people that they would like to see the bridge saved and owned by the State. Some have expressed interest in making it part of the Long Path. Personally, I think it is a great idea. This would give the owner of the Pine Grove House some customers who are hiking the LP.

I do know that the town would like to make the closed section of Malden Ave a park. Also a great idea.

Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:26 pm
by mtnclimber
Nice collection of pictures. Too bad the bridge is in this position. A bridge that no one wants to own, but everyone wants to use.

Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:21 am
by rkugel
Thanks! I agree with Mike that making the bridge part of the Long Path would be a great idea. In any event, I hope this piece of history is saved and preserved.

Re: Palenville Swing Bridge

New postPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:32 pm
by mike
Seems that the Palenville community is getting really angry at the Pine Grove Hotel. Seems that he claimed that he owned the Swing Bridge. He doesn't. It is owned by the town. And the town has a legal right away over the Pine Grove Hotel. Seems that the Pine Grove Hotel is now preventing access to this right away. People in the community are now banding together to fight the owner. It sounds like it is going to get ugly.

It is our understanding that the Pine Grove Hotel has not opened up yet, but he is building a horrible reputation with the community.

We have also heard that someone fell on the Pine Grove Hotel property and they are suing the owner of the Pine Grove Hotel.