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Hawkeye Ledge and Poet's Ledge

hawkeye poet's ledge

Overview of this Hike:

Distance: 7.96 miles round trip from parking at bridge to Hawkeye & Poet’s Ledge and back.
Time: 5.0 hours round trip (hiking time - not including time spent at Poet's Ledge)
Elevation Gain: 1,863’ feet from parking lot to highest spot
Best Time to Hike: Arrive at Poet’s Ledge in the morning (Fall season is the best for foilage views).
Side Trips: Waterfalls, Johnson's Point, Kaaterskill High Peak.
Difficulty: 0.61 Easy Road hike - 1.91 miles of steady moderate ascent - then 2.32 miles of level hiking
VO Map No: 26
Catskill Highest: not a peak
Peak Elevation: 2,543'
Digital Mapper: Topo Terrain Satellite
Attractions: Absolutely Spectacular views from Poet’s Ledge.
Attractions: 3 very nice water falls. (50’ to 100’+ waterfalls).
Attractions: Beautiful Boreal forest after 1.91 mile ascent. Still many old growth trees (some 3 feet in diameter).
Attractions: Very remote. It is unlikely that you will encounter another person. On one hike I encountered a deer who viewed me as an oddity. It is possible that this deer had never seen a person. I was able to walk by (15 feet away) without it being spooked.
Unattractions: Difficult “Huff-and-Puff” 1,661’ vertical ascent (mile 0.62 to 2.52) at the beginning of this hike.
Unattractions: Very hard to find and access the trail entrance on Malden Ave.
Unattractions: While the views from the Waterfalls are beautiful, some are disappointed that they cannot see the grandure from the base of the waterfalls. Some have experienced and brave hikers have hiked down the steep slopes just west of Wildcat falls. Please note: going below the Falls is very dangerous. Buttermilk Falls needs ropes and climbing gear. Buttermilk Falls is a common ice climbing area.
Dangers: Falling off a one of the water falls. Do NOT attempt to cross the creeks after large storms. You can easily be swept over the falls. Do NOT walk across the water near the edge of the falls - they usually have very slippery algae.
Dangers: Rocks are often wet and mossy all year , and are deceptively slippery. Do NOT underestimate the slippery rocks. Most hikers fall 3-4 times during this hike. Getting injuried is easy. Being on the North side of a steep mountain, the sun doesn’t shine here often, so there is a lot of moss and wet rocks.
Dangers: If you are injuried you may be stuck there for days before someone comes by to help. This great trail is rarely used. Most travelers are passing thru via the Long Path.
Dangers: Black bears walk up and down this trail almost continous. Watch for dig holes. The possibility of you encountering one is pretty high. Make sure that you are up-to-date on bear encounters.
Common Animals: Coyotes, bears, bobcats, birds, Hawks, butterflies (whites & swallowtails), and deer.
Risky Animals: Rattlesnakes and Copperheads (none known), Bears (High)
Access Methods: Foot and snowshoe.

Maps, Profile, and GPS files

hawkeye gps map
hawkeye gps map profile
Click here to download the GPS file in gpx format (does not include Poet's Ledge).
Click here to download the GPS file in gdb format (Garmin Version 3) (does not include Poet's Ledge).
Click here to download the GPS file in text format (does not include Poet's Ledge).

Directions to Trail Head from New York State Thruway (Easist, not the shortest):

  • Take New York State Thruway to Exit 21 (Catskill).
  • Take a left out of the NYS Thruway entrance road.
  • Go approximately 1/2 mile
  • Take a right onto Route 23 West
  • Go approximately 5 miles on Route 23.
  • Take a left onto Rt 32 (McDonalds on corner).
  • Go approximately 7-8 miles on Route 32.
  • Take right onto Rt 23A.
  • Go approximately 7-8 miles on Rt 23A .
  • When you come out of Palenville, you can park in 3 different areas. (1) Park just before bridge (west bound lane); (2) Park 1/4 mile past bridge; (3) Park 4/10 mile before bridge in DEC parking lot.
  • You cannot park at the trail head!
  • Do NOT park by the red building next to the bridge.
  • Do NOT park on Malden Ave or in someone’s driveway on Malden Ave.
  • Do NOT drive up the dirt entrance road to the trail head - this is PRIVATE property - AND there is NO place to park or turn around once you get to the trail head.

  • Notes about this Hike

    The hike to Hawkeye Ledge and Poet's Ledge is one of the nicest hikes in the Catskill Mountains. Hawkeye Ledge is one of the hidden hikes from the late 1800's and early 1900's. Back then, there were thousands of people hiking from the three hotels by North/South Lake. So, locals would keep certain hikes secret. Hawkeye Ledge was one of those secret hikes. After the hotels finally closed, the location was still kept secret. In fact, there are still a number of secret hikes on the Kaaterskill Mountain Range.

    When it comes to Hawkeye Ledge, there are two things that are of value. First, the hike near the eastern edge of the escarpment is magical. Every couple hundred feet, the terrain changes. First it starts with a nice boreal forest. Then it changes to mountain laurel fields. And, it keeps changing. When you get near Hawkeye Ledge you will come to a large flat ledge rock with some nice scrub pine trees. Just beyond the large flat ledge is Hawkeye Ledge. Over the years, the trees have overgrown most of Hawkeye Ledge. In the Winter, you can still get a good view. The second good think about Hawekeye Ledge is the view from the ledge.

    You can access Hawkeye Ledge from the eastern escarpment is the best route for enjoyment of the route. The easiest route is up the eastern branch of Viola creek. Just follow the creek up, and then move east to Hawkeye Ledge.

    You should always try to visit Poet's Ledge first. It has the best view in the morning, as the sun shines in from east and fills up the Kaaterskill Clove with sunlight. Later in the day, the view is very disappointing. The path to Poet's Ledge is well marked DEC trail. You can also access it from Viola Falls by following northern escarpment into the woods. This is where the old trail existed. They have recently changed it so that people could access Poet's Ledge from Palenville with less mileage.

    There are several places to park, and there are several places NOT to park. You can park just before the bridge on Rt 23a. You should NOT park by the red building. The owner of the building will go nuts! You cannot park anywhere on Malden Ave. You can park at Fernwood Resturant with permission. Make sure you eat there when you return. The people along Malden ave really do not like hikers, and some make it very difficult for hikers.

    The driveway to the trail head, is the one just around the corner from the Fernwood Resturant. It is the one with No Parking signs on the driveway. The trail head is about 150 feet from the road. If you look up the road, you should see a Blue DEC trail marker or a green LP marker. Some local owners will rip down the markers. You want to take a right up the dirt road. In the Winter there is a major ice flow about 200 feet up the dirt road. You will need microspikes, cramp-ons, or snowshoes to get past this section of road in the Winter. After that you will continue to climb up the private road. Stay on the road! After the gate the path will be on the right. It will still be a ways after the gate.

    The path will continue to climb at the same 15 degree grade. A ways up the path you will come to two flat sections, but they will not last long. Above the second flat section at about 2,000' you will come to the Giant Steps. In the Winter there are often significant ice flows down the steps. In the Summer they are often slippery. Once you get to the "Stone-in-the-Path", you are almost at the top. You only have a short distance to top. Once you get to the top, the forest will change to a beautiful boreal forest.

    The path down to Poet's Ledge is a nice downhill hike. Keep an eye out for bears. It is a nice hike down. Just before Poet's Ledge is a flat section with a beautiful boreal forest. Just beyond the forest is Poet's Ledge. Poet's Ledge has one of the best views in the Catskill Mountains. Then reverse yourself, and then go to Hawkeye Ledge. The first 1.40 miles of this hike runs over public roads and private land. You will walk on public roads for 0.61 miles, and 0.79 miles on private land (dirt roads). The private lands provide the public with a “right-of-way”. Most of the people in the area really don’t want you to hike this trail, and present obstacles to make it as difficult as possible. You will also see numerous No Parking signs, No Trespassing signs, closed metal gates blocking the path, and guard rails to block you, overgrown paths, poison ivy, etc to discourage you. They go out of their way to make finding the trail head and accessing it as difficult as possible. But, if you follow our instructions, you have every legal right to hike this path. In spite of their actions, please respect the owners land, and do NOT leave the road, and be respectful to the owners. Sooner or later, the State will need to step in, and fix this situation. 30 years ago, Malden Ave was not blocked off at the Rt 23A end, and you could park on Malden Ave. When they closed sections of Malden Ave where people parked, this historic trail started to die. Now it is very rare that local people hike this trail. A very sad situation for such a great and historic hiking path.

    Mile Stone Chart

    Mile PointAltitudeNotes
    0.00680’Parking - From Route 23A turn onto Malden Ave - Walk past double guard rails (watch out for poison ivy on left side of road).
    0.62680’Walk up wide dirt driveway about 250’ ( look for green Long Path trail marker on tree - hard to see from Malden Ave) - Turn right and walk up narrow dirt driveway past metal gate (If gate is closed, walk around gate).
    1.01 Road branch - Go straight
    1.27 Road branch - Go Right
    1.331,255’Road Branch - Go Right - leave dirt road and continue onto the foot path
    1.40 Leave private land onto public land
    2.131,955’Level off for a while
    2.312,067’Giant steps
    2.342,102’Ledge #1 (views)
    2.522,325’Reach top of moderate ascent - Levels off after this for several miles. Total ascent of 1,661’.
    2.572,317’Start of Boreal Forest - Take a LEFT and walk south along ridge line (Watch for black bears at this point)
    3.492,341’Trail Branch - go right to Poet’s Ledge (0.44 miles) - Yellow trail markers
    4.452,492’Hawkeye Ledge - now a limited view - best when leaves are off the trees GPS N 42 09.550 W 74 03.084
    4.892,187’POET’S LEDGE - Outstanding View! - Enjoy. Be careful of the opening between the rocks on the ledge. It is a 30’ fall. There are blueberry bushes around the ledge, which bears can be very possessive of (end of June - early July).
    5.332,341’Trail Junction
    7.96680’Return to Parking Lot

    Hike to Poet's Ledge

    hawkeye poet's ledge
    There are 3 places you can park to do this hike.
    (1) You can park where this picture was taken (Just before this bridge);
    (2) You can continue 1/4 mile and park on the right side of the road;
    (3) You can park in the DEC parking lot 4/10 of a mile before the red building. Some people have parked at the Fernwood Resturant (with permission).

    The mileage for this hike starts where this picture is taken. It is the closest place to the trail head.

    Walk over bridge and take a left onto Malden Ave (In front of the red building).

    Walk around the barrier. You will have to wade thru the brush at the beginning of this barrier. Then you can continue walking on the road until you reach the barrier on the other side of Malden Ave. Continue down Malden Ave. The distance to the dirt road that is the beginning of the trail is 0.62 miles.
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    From the other side of Malden Ave, this is the entrance to the Long Path/trails into the Kaaterskill High Peak region.Walk up this driveway.

    Absolutely do NOT park here, or drive up this road. This road is private property, and you only have the rights to walk up the road to access the trail head. The trail head onto public land is 1.40 miles from where you parked your car next to the bridge. I can assure you that if you park here, your car will be towed.

    If you look very carefully from Malden Ave, you might see the green Long Path trail marker on the tree. You have to look very carefully.

    After walking 150 feet up this driveway, turn RIGHT onto a smaller driverway. You will see a DEC sign denoting that this is the way to the trail. 30 feet after turning right you will see a steel gate. You can walk around the gate and continue up the road.

    There is another metal gate further up the road. Walk around that one too, if it is closed.

    The picture on the right shows the sign denoting the direction to the trail. The first metal gate blocking the road is just past the sign denoting the trail.
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    At mile marker 1.01 (from where you parked your car), you will come to a 3-way intersection. GO STRAIGHT.

    You will see trail markers, so follow them if you get confused.

    There is another road on the right of the picture (which you cannot see in the photo).
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    At mile post 1.27, you will encounter the second trail branch. You want to GO RIGHT. Again follow the trail markers.
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    At Mile post 1.33 (elevation 1,250’) the road will branch again. This time the branch will move off the road on to a foot path. If you were to continue further, you will run into the property owners house. So try not to disturb them.

    At Mile post 1.40, you will leave private land and will enter public land. At this point you can leave the path if you so choose.

    The path will continue on a steady moderate uphill ascent.

    At Mile post 2.13 (elevation 1955), it will level off for a little while. Maps from 50-60 years ago show a trail branch around 2,000’ to 2,100’ that will lead up to Hawkeye Ledge. We looked for the trail head, but didn’t see it. This trail is thousands of years old. It is sad that the DEC allowed Hawkeye Ledge Trail to disappear. Hawkeye Ledge is located on the eastern escarpment and is believed to have a 500’ vertical drop that allows a significant view of the Hudson Valley that is probably similar to Newman’s Ledge.

    Historic records talk about many Indian trails thru out the mountain range. Some are thousands of years old. Unfortunately, the DEC has not maintained many of these trails, and most of them are now gone.
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    At Mile post 2.31 (Elevation 2,067) you will encounter The Giant Steps. These rocks are slippery to don’t be deceived by their appearance. Many experienced hikers have fallen around this area. There is one step in this area that has a rounded off tread (been ground smooth by thousands of years of hiking), which has causes many injuries. This caution seems overstated, but many experienced hikers have been fooled. Most are injuried on the way down.

    SAFETY NOTE: There is one step in this area that has a rounded off tread (been ground smooth by thousands of years of hiking), which has causes many injuries. Most injuries happen on the way back down the mountain.
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    At Mile post 2.34 (elevation 2,102) you will encounter the first ledge with a view. From this ledge you can clearly see Indian Head Ledge, Palenville Overlook Ledge, and Boulder Rock. You will also be able to see down into Palenville and the Hudson Valley.

    At Mile post 2.44 (elevation 2,264) you will encounter “Rock-in-the-Path”.

    At Mile post 2.52 (elevation 2,325) you will come to the end of the long ascent. (At this point you have completed the 1,645’ vertical ascent. At this point, the trail will continue on a level path all the way to Twilight Park.

    At Mile post 2.57 (elevation 2,317) you will enter the beautiful Boreal Forest that has many magnificent old growth trees. Some are 3+ feet in diameter. The forest has a nice thick canopy, and is exceedingly enjoyable to walk thru.

    SAFETY NOTE: At this point you need to start being hyper vigilent to the presence of Black Bears. There is a very high population of Black Bears in the area. The probability of a bear encounter is pretty high. If you are unaware of how to hike in high bear population areas, and what to do if you encounter a bear, I would recommend that you visit our Animal section of our web site.
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    At Mile post 2.63 (elevation 2,341) you will encounter a Trail branch. If you go right it will lead to Poet’s Ledge. The trail is marked with Yellow Trail Markers. The detour to Poet’s Ledge is 0.44 miles one way or 0.88 miles round trip. Poet’s Ledge is the shining star of this hike, and shouldn’t be skipped. It has one of the most magnificent views in the Catskill Mountains. If this is the end of your hike, your round trip mileage will be 6.14 miles. The trail will be a 196’ drop in elevation from the trail branch down to Poet’s Ledge.

    SAFETY NOTE: It should be noted that there are blueberry bushes near the ledge, and at the end of June and early July, they become ripe. Bears absolutely love blueberrys and will defend their feeding ground.
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    About 2/3 of the way down to Poet’s Ledge, you will encounter two ledges (pictures on the right and left). These are NOT Poet’s Ledge. There are blueberry bushes around both of these ledges, so be aware of Bears around this area.

    Continue on the path until the path absolutely ends. Then you will be at Poet’s Ledge.
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    After the two ledges, you will come to a beautiful mossy notch. Continue down and around the notch.

    Shortly after exiting the notch, you will enter a beautiful Boreal forest. At the end of the short forest is Poet’s Ledge.
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    This is the view of Poet’s Ledge. While the photo is beautiful, it really doesn’t do justice to the view you will get. On a clear crisp day, the vistas are awe inspiring.

    Safety Note: There is a benign looking crack in the ledge. If you look carefully, there is a 30’ drop into a cave. If you fall thru the crack, I don’t know if you can get out, or if you will encounter a sleeping bear. So, use caution.

    The best time to arrive at Poet’s Ledge is around noon time to 2 PM in the afternoon. Late in the afternoon is the worst time. The photo above was taken at 10 AM. Arriving too early in the morning increases the probability of a bear encounter. It takes 2 hours and 15 minutes to get there.

    The mileage from the Long Path to Poet’s ledge is 0.44 miles, and the elevation at Poet’s Ledge is 2,145’. There is a 197’ drop in elevation.

    Reverse course to return back to the Long Path. Since this path is not used a lot, it is easy to walk off the trail, so keep this in mind.
    hawkeye ledge
    There are two main routes to Hawkeye. The first route is to bushwack just east of the turn off to Poet's Ledge. It basically follows the eastern escarpment. This way provides the best experience. Every couple hundred feet the terrain will change. It has an unusally terrain. It has conifer forest, deciduous forest. mountain laural fields, flat ledge rock, scrub pines, etc.

    The other route is to follow the eastern branch of Viola creek up the mountain side. This way is just west of the turn off to Poet's Ledge. This is the most common route from Twilight Park, but does not have the magic of the other route.

    Once you get closer to Hawkeye, you can get to the flat glacier ground rock from either route. The flat ledge rock is very close to Hawkeye Ledge. The picture above shows part of the flat ledge.
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    Here is another picture of the flat ledge rock that was ground smooth by the glaciers. Notice the scrub pines.

    There is a fire ring from close to 100 years ago, when people used to camp up near Hawkeye Ledge. It is an excellent place to camp for the night.
    hawkeye ledge
    hawkeye poet's ledge
    Taken from Hawkeye Ledge looking down towards the Hudson Valley. Notice the trees have grown higher then the 50' ledge that makes up Hawkeye Ledge.

    It should be noted that if you decide to explore the lower part of the Kaaterskill Amphitheatre you may find Timber Rattlesnakes and Copperheads. They do exist at the very bottom of the amphitheatre.
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    Taken from Hawkeye Ledge looking up into the Kaaterskill Amphitheatre. .
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